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Crushing the Opposition


This is a picture of two men who have been the target of unrelenting criticism during their terms as General Managers. John Ferguson Jr. (on left) was pilloried in the media right up until the day he was semi-fired, at which point the media switched from criticizing his record to criticizing the way the Leafs handled his firing. In any other city, the owners would have been applauded. In Toronto, the owners are so inept that they can muddle the firing of a poor GM to such an extent that the fans turn on them. Good thing I'm not a Leafs fan.

The other fellow is Larry Pleau, of the St. Louis Blues, and a guy that I have had to shake my head at repeatedly. If you can't get more for Chris Pronger than Brewer, an fallin prospect (Woywitka) and an injured prospect (Lynch), maybe being an NHL GM isn't for you. Then he goes and makes two trades, both of which clearly illustrate that he can still occasionally school the opposition (and, incidentally, Pleau is still GM, not John Davidson, as inaccurately reported all over the place).

The first trade sent career 3rd/4th liner Jamal Mayers to the Maple Leafs (building for the future by dumping draft picks) for a third-round pick. Mayers played tough opposition all year, but he also got eaten alive in the role, similar to Jarret Stoll this season. His numbers weren't great shorthanded either, despite averaging over 3 minutes per night in that role.

The second trade was with Nashville, where Pleau sent a 4th round pick to the Predators for Chris Mason, marking the third time in the last couple of seasons St. Louis has picked up a goalie on the cheap, hoping for a rebound. The results to date (Lalime, Legace) have been mixed. I had pegged St. Louis as a potential destination for Dwayne Roloson, but if I were offered the choice between Roli and Mason, I know which way I'd go. From the Nashville perspective, it seems clear that the team plans to make Dan Ellis the man, something that seems a little risky given that he posted an .894 SV% in the AHL in 2006-07. Given the two year, 6M contract that kicks in for Mason next season, this was presumably a salary dump. Even so, you'd think Mason would be worth more than a 4th round pick. Also, given that Nashville will be playing St. Louis 8 times this season, the potential of this to backfire has to be a little worrying.

Taking these two trades, I'm willing to make a pair of statements:
1) Raffi Torres is worth a 2nd round pick, and possibly even a little more.
2) Dwayne Roloson will be an Edmonton Oiler until the 2008 trade deadline.

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Gotta respectfully disagree with your opinions on the Mayers trade. This guy is exactly what the Leafs have been missing. He's going to come in and instill the kind of work ethic a winning team needs, something this team hasn't known since Doug Gilmour retired. Yes he got killed on the tough minutes last year, but who on the Blues didn't get raped when they laced the skates on?

A third-rounder seems like a reasonable price to pay for a team that needs a little bit of everything. Hometown boy to boot.

In regards to the Mason trade, completely agree with you there. What makes me even more curious about all this is that Ellis is UFA. They've got to be extremely confidant that they can get him signed.

by doritogrande on Jun 20, 2008 10:09 AM MDT reply actions  


A third-rounder seems like a reasonable price to pay for a team that needs a little bit of everything. Hometown boy to boot.


I don't know - Mayers will be 34 entering next season, hit his career high in points last season with 27, and is due to be paid 1.3M/yr for the next two years. He's a nice piece, but not terribly useful for a rebuilding team at the expense of a draft pick. The other thing is that there are tons of players who could replicate his skillset available on the UFA market. If the Leafs really wanted a guy like Mayers, they could just offer Glencross a 3yr/4.5M contract on July 1st, with the bonus that Glencross is both younger and has more offensive potential.

by Jonathan Willis on Jun 20, 2008 10:51 AM MDT reply actions  

...and there's the contract for Ellis. That deal's as good or better than the Mathieu Garon signing. Congrats to Nashville GM.

by doritogrande on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 AM MDT reply actions  

That deal's as good or better than the Mathieu Garon signing.

An amazing contract at 1.75M/yr. Really, really good work. I'd say the argument just got really strong to sign Garon to a two-year extension as soon as possible, if this is the market.

by Jonathan Willis on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 AM MDT reply actions  

I thought that the Mason trade was not a good one for the Blues. It would seem to me that you could find something cheaper than 3 million dollars on the UFA goalie market that would be adequate for at most splitting time. They had to give a pick for the privelege of paying an overpriced goalie.

by Scott on Jun 21, 2008 3:46 PM MDT reply actions  

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